Profession doesn't always = Possession

When it comes to salvation profession does not guarantee possession.

Do you agree or disagree with this statement?

Does the fact that someone professes to be a Christian guarantee that they are a Christian? Because someone says yes I have prayed to receive Jesus Christ does that statement of profession guarantee a possession of salvation?

The church is much divided on this issue.

Are people being given a false hope of salvation?

Should we be more careful in the theological articulation of God’s plan of salvation?

Certainly the only answers to this overarching question must come from the Bible—what do you think? Justify a comment from the Bible.

Non-biblically based comments will be deleted.

8 comments:

  1. Mark 5:2-10 And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit, Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains: Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him. And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones. But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him, And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not. For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit. And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many. And he besought him much that he would not send them away out of the country.

    Here is an example of an unclean Spirit giving more credit to Jesus than some of the professions I have seen.

    Romans 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

    So to answer the question a head knowledge or mere profession from the mouth and not the heart doesnt amount to a hill of beans. It is only a hocus pocus prayer at that point.

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  2. "Because someone says yes I have prayed to receive Jesus Christ does that statement of profession guarantee a possession of salvation?"

    I would say "praying to receive Christ" is not the way of salvation in any case. "Prayer" is not even the same as Romans 10:9 profession. That is saying, "I have become a believer". This profession does not happen because one wishes to be saved. Rather they do so because they think they are believers already (otherwise, why would you profess that you are a believer if you are not one already?)

    Ephesians 2:8, John 6:47, John 3:16, Acts 16:31 are just a sample of the plethora of Scripture which indicates that many "professors" today are not professing anything--other than a profession of trying to gain salvation through prayer!

    We spend years training children in our ministries to memorize Scriptures, and then they are taught things that are not even contained in those same Scriptures!

    What does it really mean when it says, "He that believes doesn't perish, but has everlasting life"? What does this mean for "plain text understanding" if someone who doesn't like studying context says, "Yeah! But the demons believe!"

    Come now, anyone who reads the rest of James 2:19 can see that demons merely "believe in one God". It says nothing about them placing the welfare of their soul in the finished work of Christ.

    Until we can break free of this lust for seeing decisions counted after our soul-winning or preaching opportunities, we will not cease to see fruit picked green or lost folks becoming "twofold children of Hell".

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  3. Should i comment here? Anyway, i think that for some people yes, for some people no.
    For example, someone does profession he got saved, but someone does profession that he got saved but he doesnt really act like that.Matthew 7:21-23 says that not everyone who says that he got saved are not saved actually.
    So my answer is that for some people yes for some people no

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  5. Should i comment here? Anyway, i think that for some people yes, for some people no.
    For example, someone does profession he got saved, but someone does profession that he got saved but he doesnt really act like that.Matthew 7:21-23 says that not everyone who says that he got saved are not saved actually.
    So my answer is that for some

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  6. Ephesians 2:8 says we are saved by faith. But what if someone making a confession does not have any faith and is just going through the motions? I really don't think a confession without faith would actually lead to possession. We can't make the judgment call on whether or not someone is actually saved, and this could lead to the idea of being greatly "backslidden". But how far is backslidden? Matthew 7: 19 says: "Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire." This is the same chapter in Matthew we went over in class saying that not everyone who makes a profession will enter heaven's gates. This could also lead up to James 2, where we are told that faith without works is dead. If a person making a profession has absolutely no change in their lifestyle except maybe calling himself a Christian, what was the point of even making the profession? Some piece of mind? Now that I've said a prayer I'm going to heaven? There's definitely more to it than that and I agree entirely with the statement that profession does not always equal possession.

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  7. Matthew 7:21 makes it very clear: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. This passage of scripture talks of 2 types: a "sayer", and a "doer". Not everyone professing Christ (the sayer) is genuinely saved. The outward verbal acknowledgement of Christ is not enough. The "doer" exhibits the fruits of repentance by genuinely seeking to live after the will of God, continually striving to live in obedience to God's will and word. This is not to be confused with a works based salvation; I'm merely pointing out the fruits of salvation through a change in works. But to the end, not all that confess Christ will be saved, as evidenced in Matthew 7:21.

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  8. I believe we need to go back to the original sin. What caused the separation between Adam and Eve and God?

    It was that they did not obey His commandment to not eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. This seemingly innocent act of eating the fruit caused their separation. Can we agree that not keeping the commandment of God is sin?

    Now, extend it to Mat 7:23, very much so that those who practice iniquity or lawlessness know him not. Those who love God keep His commandments, and those who love Him not, keep it not.

    Those who know Him, also know His voice and follow Him. Christ is also known as the Word as He was the Word made flesh. The Word is the Bible, and if you read the Bible you will know Him. Not only know, but follow. If you follow not, you willfully sin against Him and put Him to open shame.

    So we must understand what caused all this separation in the first place even in all its trivialities, and look through God's mercy and sacrifice to understand why He gave it to us in the first place. One should ask prayerfully, is the message that God continues to provide for sacrifice even after receiving/understanding the truth, that they can go on disobeying and still call themselves followers/children of God? Is it true that the Bible states that God forgives no matter what, or is it that it states that one's heart becomes hardened after sinning in Christ. Have the repentance of David and not of Saul. Is it biblical or is it deception from the evil one that you can call yourself a child of God yet not keep His commandments?

    One overarching idea is to know that it is He who gives all things, and no good works can come by human effort. Whether it be faith, works, love; it all comes by God. If you do not have a heart to obey God to the tee, ask for a new heart. He will give as He keeps His promise to those who ask for one and all things are possible through God. If you do not have that faith, ask for that first. We love, because God loved us first.

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